46 Similarities Between Jesus and Horus
The following was adapted and expanded based on an article available from religioustolerance.org, which has their own sources. Upon revision, each point here will be fleshed out and this will hopefully be more of an essay than a list. As it stands, this list is hardly original… but revised, will hopefully be more authoritative and objective than many of the Christ-bashing pages out there. My goal is not to bash anyone or any belief, but merely to offer some ideas and views to contemplate.
1a. Jesus was conceived of a virgin. (Matthew 1:23 and Luke 1:27)
1b. Horus was conceived of a virgin. (source unknown)
2a. Jesus was the “only begotten son” of the god Yahweh. (Mark 1:11)
2b. Horus was the “only begotten son” of the god Osiris. (source unknown)
3a. The mother of Jesus was Mary. Sometimes referred to as Maria (Gospel of Mark) or Miriam.
3b. The mother of Horus was Meri. (source unknown)
4a. The foster father of Jesus was Joseph.
4b. The foster father of Horus was Jo-Seph. (source unknown)
5a. Joseph was of royal descent, being from the House of David.
5b. Jo-Seph was of royal descent. (source unknown)
6a. Jesus was born in cave. (Some accounts say Jesus was born in a manger in a barn or stable.)
6b. Horus was born in a cave. (source unknown)
7a. The coming birth of Jesus was announced to Mary by an angel. (Luke 1:34)
7b. The coming birth of Horus was announced to his mother by an angel. (source unknown)
8a. The birth of Jesus was heralded by a star in the East (where the Sun rises in the morning). (Matthew 2:2 and Matthew 2:9)
8b. The birth of Horus was heralded by the star Sirius (the morning star). (source unknown)
9a. Modern Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25. (This coincides with a variety of pagan holidays, not just Horus. Most obvious, of course, is the Winter Solstice.)
9b. Ancient Egyptians celebrated the birth of Horus on the Winter Solstice (December 21/22).
10a. The birth of Jesus was announced by an angel. (Luke Chapter 2)
10b. The birth of Horus was announced by an angel. (source unknown)
11a. Jesus was visited by shepherds at his birth. (Luke Chapter 2)
11b. Horus was visited by shepherds at his birth. (source unknown)
12a. Jesus was visited by magi (astrologers or wise men) at his birth. Tradition says there were three of them. (Matthew Chapter 2)
12b. Horus was visited by “three solar deities” art his birth. (source unknown)
13a. After the birth of Jesus, Herod tried to have him murdered. (Matthew 2:16)
13b. After the birth of Horus, Herut tried to have him murdered. This may be more of a coincidence, as the Herod in the time of Jesus is a historical figure. (source unknown)
14a. To hide from Herod, an angel tells Joseph to “arise and take the young child and his mother and flee into Egypt.” (Matthew 2:13)
14b. To hide from Herut, the god That tells Isis, “Come, thou goddess Isis, hide thyself with thy child.”
15a. When Jesus (and other Jews) come of age, they have a special ritual called a Bar Mitzvah.
15b. When Horus came of age, he had a special ritual where hsi eye was restored.
16a. Jesus was 12 at his coming-of-age ritual.
16b. Horus was 12 at his coming-of-age ritual.
17a. Jesus has no official recorded history between age 12 and 30.
17b. Horus has no official recorded history between age 12 and 30.
18a. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan. (Matthew 3:6, Mark 1:5)
18b. Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus.
19a. Jesus was baptized at age 30.
19b. Horus was baptized at age 30.
20a. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist. (Matthew, Mark and Luke)
20b. Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer.
21a. John was later beheaded. (Matthew Chapter 14, Mark Chapter 6)
21b. Anup was later beheaded.
22a. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-nemesis Satan. (Mark 1:13)
22b. Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set.
23a. Jesus successfully resists.
23b. Horus successfully resists.
24a. Jesus has 12 disciples, although their names are in dispute.
24b. Horus has 12 disciples.
25a. Jesus walked on water (Matthew 14:22, Mark 6:45, John 6:16), cast out demons (Mark 7:26), healed the sick (Matthew 4:23, Mark 1:32), and restored sight to the blind (John Chapter 9).
25b. Horus walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.
26a. Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, “Peace, be still.” (Luke 8:25)
26b. Horus “stilled the sea by his power.”
27a. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. (John 11:38)
27b. Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. (Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)
28a. Lazarus was raised, or at least lived, in Bethany (literally, “house of Anu”). (John 12:1)
28b. Osiris was raised in the town of Anu.
29a. Jesus delivered a Sermon on the Mount.
29b. Horus delivered a Sermon on the Mount.
30a. Jesus was crucified.
30b. Horus was crucified.
31a. Jesus was crucified next to two thieves.
31b. Horus was crucified next to two thieves.
32a. Jesus was buried in a tomb. (John 19:42)
32b. Horus was buried in a tomb.
33a. Jesus was sent to Hell and came back “three days” later (although Friday night to Sunday morning in our modern tradition is hardly three days).
33b. Horus was sent to Hell and resurrected in 3 days.
34a. Jesus had his resurrection announced by women. (The blog MarkAndMore would like to point out that Mark 16:8 says, “And they went out quickly, and fled from the sepulcher; for they trembled and were amazed: neither said they any thing to any man; for they were afraid.” In this version, the women never made the announcement.)
34b. Horus had his resurrection announced by women.
35a. Jesus is said to return for a 1000-year reign. (Revelation 20:4)
35b. Horus is said to return for a 1000-year reign.
36a. Jesus was known as the Christ (which means “anointed one”).
36b. Horus is known as KRST, the anointed one.
37a. Jesus has been called the good shepherd (John 10:11, 10:14), the lamb of God (John 1:29, 1:36), the bread of life (John 6:35, John 6:48), the son of man (many places), the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.
37b. Horus has been called the good shepherd, the lamb of God, the bread of life, the son of man, the Word, the fisher, and the winnower.
38a. Jesus is associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).
38b. Horus is associated with the zodiac sign of Pisces (the fish).
39a. Jesus is associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd’s crook.
39b. Horus is associated with the symbols of the fish, the beetle, the vine, and the shepherd’s crook.
40a. Jesus was born in Bethlehem (”the house of bread”). (Matthew 2:1)
40b. Horus was born in Anu (”the place of bread”).
41a. The infant Jesus was carried into Egypt to escape the wrath of Herod. Concerning the infant Jesus, the New Testament states the following prophecy: “Out of Egypt have I called my son.” (See Point 13) (Matthew 2:15)
41b. The infant Horus was carried out of Egypt to escape the wrath of Typhon.
42a. Jesus was transfigured on the mount.
42b. Horus was transfigured on the mount.
43. The catacombs of Rome have pictures of the infant Horus being held by his mother, not unlike the modern-day images of “Madonna and Child.”
44. Noted English author C. W. King says that both Isis and Mary are called “Immaculate”.
45. Jesus says: “Now is the Son of Man glorified and God is glorified in him. If God is glorified in him, God will glorify the Son in himself, and will glorify him at once.”
45b. Horus says: “Osiris, I am your son, come to glorify your soul, and to give you even more power.”
46a. Jesus is identified with the Tau (cross).
46b. Horus was identified with the Tau (cross).
December 2nd, 2005 at 7:13 am
Thank you for actually having the guts to tell this undeniable story! The masses have been led astray, to remove us from the truth! May Ra Bless, Hotep!
January 7th, 2006 at 10:35 pm
Can yo taking this on faith?
June 16th, 2006 at 3:06 am
The problem I find with the Horus-Christ link lies in where the information on Horus life comes from. From the analogy made here it could be assumed that the Christ story is a rehash of a much older Horus myth. However, we have to be careful before making such an assumption. The Horus myth is very complicated because there were many “Horus” deities, each one having its peculiar legends. Hardly any of these details mentioned of the Horus myth here can be found in the myth I know of “Horus the Elder” (the one inscribed on that coffin). So, my question is, where do these so called details of the Horus myth come from? Or, more importantly, what period do they come from? Might not they be a revision of the Horus myth under the influence of Christianity?
If someone can give footnotes to reference the time and place of these legends, it would be very helpful in making them more credible.
June 19th, 2006 at 12:35 pm
Paul Adkin has a valid point. This list is poorly sourced and if I ever revise it, certainly my top priority would be to cite more specific sources.
July 28th, 2006 at 4:55 pm
good site :) Thanks for the information :)
December 25th, 2006 at 9:18 am
You should read up on Horus some more. Try “Egyptian Mythology” by Pinch or Dr. Brier’s course from the Teaching Company. You’ve got his story completely wrong. He’s a wonderful and facinating figure and I think you’ll like encountering the real Horus.
February 18th, 2007 at 4:14 pm
do u know his age?(how old did he lived to?????)
March 2nd, 2007 at 8:25 pm
I am an advid truth seeker. Tell me, do you find the bible to be plagerized? Did Israel take with them the ancient mythology of their supposed masters? Such as with kabala is babylonian based?
March 26th, 2007 at 3:15 am
Im heading the same route well done:-) what i would like to know is is set satan? and what about these physchic vampires as im an empath and swear ive met one, i looked virtually at his soul through his eyes like a ball of fire kinda scary and i saw a small version of him crying saying help me. Wonder if you knew anything. Thanks Julie
June 4th, 2007 at 5:02 pm
Brilliant! I never knew some of these facts. It’s a government/alien/Church/evil overlord conspiracy! P.S. Set was the god of the underworld I believe.
June 26th, 2007 at 11:22 pm
that is not fifty reasons… i dont like your simple maths
July 1st, 2007 at 12:59 pm
Thank you for the post on your webpage. However, can you provide any proof that your list is accurate? I have seen this list on many webpages elsewhere, and Im led to believe that this is not your own work, but a copy/paste of what many similar webpages talk about. I wish nothing more than for the claims on this webpage to be true, that Jesus is actually just a copy of Horus, but many of the claims you present here is not just provable. Can you provide me with any citable sources for this list, and please not just links to other webpages that have this list, Ive seen enough of those. There are a few points on this list I agree to, i.e. that Horus was from rolay descent, but a few of your claims are just plain wrong as far as I can see. The virgin birth, that he was born in a cave and that mother Isis was called “Meri” etc is just things I cannot verify to be true. Can you please (!) provide me with information that actually substantiates your claims? Making a list of supposed similarities between Horus and Jesus is meaningless, unless you back it up with some kind of evidence/independant sources. Thank you and all the best – Thomas
July 4th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
Your “facts” are plain wrong. Yes they match the Jesus of the Roman Mithric Church becuase they took the paganism and mixed it with Yeshua of the Bible. However Jesus as not born in a cave, He wae born in a manger in a Sukkoth. He was not born on Dec 25 that is just the Mithric date given by the church. He was born in the Fall at the Feast of Tabernacles. “The heavens declare the glory of YHWY (god)” The story of the messiah was written in the start at the start of time. The pagen star gazers knew this but chose to whorship the stars instead of the Creator. I could go on and on. Remember there is a differance between the Yeshua in the Bible as you read it for your self and the Jesus the church has brainwashed the world with.
July 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pm
how many commenters failed the math test? Interesting article, will check out the facts further. one question, why is there no mention of Jesus in any writing prior to Constantine? You would think some of the miracles would have at least been given an honorable mention!!!
July 11th, 2007 at 8:01 am
i just would like to know where you got your information so i can read about it. i think it is absurd to believe something without investigation. feel free to email me your sources if you have them handy
July 12th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
None of this is true. “Mari” and “Jo-seph” are completely made up. as well as other things. And I’m an athetist. You’re just a dumb fuck
July 12th, 2007 at 3:35 pm
The Bible does not claim that three wise men visited Jesus, it gives no number at all, rather it says only that he was visited by wise men. The number three has been popularized by modern culture and has no basis in fact whatsoever.
July 13th, 2007 at 5:18 am
I thought that the father and mother of Osiris were Geb and Nut. z
July 13th, 2007 at 9:18 am
hey mark…im sorry but none of the bible has any basis in fact whatsoever…so the number three is equally accurate as any number…and that level of accuracy (for both) is none…but i do agree a lot of the facts are BS….
July 13th, 2007 at 10:37 am
FUCK YOU, loser. wasting people’s time and intellect with bullshit that is not testified in any decent literature. people like you should die a thousand deaths.
July 13th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Very interesting…not sure if all of these facts are believable, but it was a good idea anyway
July 13th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
WOW !!! I never knew that about Horus and Jesus. I still believe that there was a istorical Jesus but that he was more or less a quasi philosopher/political activist. He certainly was not a god. Thanks for your interesting article.
July 13th, 2007 at 1:56 pm
there are only 46 similarities, not 50. Other than that, I love this article. I am an atheist and am glad to see the falsehoods of Christianity exposed.
July 13th, 2007 at 2:28 pm
The Horus myth is 1500 BC. Herod wasn’t alive til 1450 years later. His tomb has been found and coins barring his inscriptions. John the Baptist was also written about extensively and came a long much later. It would appear the Horus myth must have had some additions from the story of Christ then. The Horus myth predates these men by 1500 years but has these men that really existed as part of his story? Simple math test folks :)
July 13th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
so, this was a very interesting article its seems however to have a few holes, first of all there are some inconsistencies in the translations of the names, It is rather unlikely that the current names for people and places can be directly applied. In these days it is becoming more difficult to write history incorrectly. There does exist very interesting parallels that cannot be ignored, you definitely need to provide proof as has been previously commented upon.
July 13th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Yes a Herod existed, but like the biblical Babylonians to the real ones, the accounts differ. There is no record of Herod giving the order the bible attributes to him. It’s also worth noting that the EARLIEST of the new testaments dates to 60AD, the latest of them dates to about 120AD, the four in the bible aren’t connected until 190AD and the bible itself isn’t connected up until aobut 380AD by Constantine and the Roman Empire.
July 13th, 2007 at 8:01 pm
These many similarities might be believable if you hadn’t lied to make it sound more convincing. However, any real truth seeker will expect more than just your word and will expose your deceit through their personal research. And as you would find by researching on your own, key events in Christ’s life were made known well in advance of his birth which would make it quite easy to create mythical copycats. As for your agenda, those of us whose belief goes beyond faith have had personal experiences that to any scientist would prove without a doubt the existence of a God and would only perpetuate his research. Sadly few unbelievers will take the small steps needed to validate this fact.
July 15th, 2007 at 12:56 pm
Horus was not sent to Hel. Hel is a Norse Goddess.
July 15th, 2007 at 1:12 pm
There’s an interesting movie on video.google.com with the name “Zetigeist” that also mentions many similarities between different religions and the source leads to ancient astrology.
July 15th, 2007 at 7:53 pm
is any of this accurate?
July 15th, 2007 at 9:58 pm
Interesting, I’ll have to look into this. You should note though, that on 33 when he says “hardly 3 days” that to that culture one day is half of our day (daylight is a day and nighttime is a day) which explains the three day thing.
July 16th, 2007 at 12:12 am
I found this interesting, Gavin. Thanks for putting it together. Some previous comments requested academic style citations. Though it isn’t really my place to provide citation for your article, I thought this web-site might be of interest. Cheers.
July 16th, 2007 at 12:21 am
Oops… the web-site didn’t carry over. I’ll make an other effort. If this doesn’t work google Devils From Heaven. this is from derf
July 16th, 2007 at 1:40 am
If true and I have no reason to doubt the comparisons between Horus and Jesus contained infra, it sort of confirmed the compelling theory that modern Christian credo appeared to have been substantially borrowed from the early Egyptians When my dear wife and I toured Egypt yonks ago I remember well our tour guide, a 30ish a multi-lingual well spoken young erudite man who said he held a masters’ degree in Egyptian antiquities and was part way through his Doctorate – which I had no reason to doubt or disbelieve. Upon our frequent discourses which essentially amounted to passive interrogation of his knowledge (more by habit than conscious intention as I am a retired senior detective/investigator) I was left with the distinct impression there was a case to answer by Christian if not Jewish religious scholars for gross plagiarism of early Egyptian religious belief structures. I must say I wasn’t really surprised by this because if you’ve been around as long as I have nothing really surprises me except of course if the creationists views of reality turn out to be true and then, only mildly ïŠ One of the first principles you learn as a trainee detective is nothing is fact until proven to be so which is underscored by the tenet “Don’t believe in co-incidences” If it looks, smells, tastes and feels fishy, it’s a bloody fish.
July 16th, 2007 at 6:15 am
If you watch the movie (part one) ont this site http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com
July 16th, 2007 at 11:24 am
Wow. A lot of comments… yes, it lacks citations and yes, it’s not work I can really claim credit for (as I said in the introduction). All this attention lately causes me to want to update this. (Though, I must sadly say the address might be different.)
July 16th, 2007 at 1:06 pm
I have only researched this on Wikepedia so far. I mentions none of what you have stated here. Second Horus had the head of an eagle and was never human. I will continune to do some more research.
July 17th, 2007 at 7:14 am
It makes an interesting assumption, but with no sources, the same could be said of anyone.
July 18th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Yes! Watch the zeitgeist movie posted above!!!! The story of Jesus and Horus and many other religions are merely a story based on astrology…thats it. Watch part one of the movie and see….you can also check sources there.
July 19th, 2007 at 10:45 am
Horus was not the only one as detailed in this film http://www.ZeitGeistMovie.com its free and it will change the way you look at the world and your future.
July 19th, 2007 at 11:31 am
aaahh – this guy is prolly one of the zeitgeist people — unreliable facts. they compared Jesus to myths and dead gods. interesting comparison — but not true +_= i say “Horus” = bogus Lol .. jokes
July 19th, 2007 at 11:53 am
Jaff… the bible absolutely has basis in fact. Some of the most fundamental laws of physics are apparent right from the beginning, in Genesis 1. Facts that history even re-discovered after a time when they were forgotten, such as the spherical shape of the world and the third law of thermodynamics, etc… Plus, the more advancements made in sciences such as molecular biology and astrophysics, the clearer we are, as an intelligent race, that the creator which the bible talks about (YHWH) does exist. HONEST, scientific and objective investigation of the properties and design of the universe will lead absolutely ANYONE to God.
Therefore, the rest of your argument is nullified. What makes you think the bible has no basis in fact? Prove it.
19. jaff Says:
July 13th, 2007 at 9:18 am
hey mark…im sorry but none of the bible has any basis in fact whatsoever…so the number three is equally accurate as any number…and that level of accuracy (for both) is none…but i do agree a lot of the facts are BS….
July 19th, 2007 at 12:26 pm
wikipedia is not a legit source of informational facts. so for those of you doing research there to prove something, best look somewhere else.
July 19th, 2007 at 5:43 pm
I’m sorry, but as an Ex-Christian and an atheist, i must beg to differ.
Its Very Inaccurate.
Do some real research.
There are similarities.
I mean boats on the catholic island of Malta have the Eye of Osiris to ward off evil spirits..
but its probably transition from Pagan to Catholic…and it stuck, because of Superstition.
Peasants were very scared of God, because they were poor and stupid and Bishops were rich and intelligent.
Also 33a. Jesus was sent to Hell ..(ok mate why would the son of god be sent to hell –_– )
6a. Jesus was born in cave. (okey…) its a stable manger .
Look i dont have time to stay looking through ur bullshit…but if you want to go around
bible bashing ..do like i did and read the bible first.
Word.
July 19th, 2007 at 5:56 pm
Graham, please read: http://www.reformed.org/documents/Christ_in_hell/index.html
Christ, according to the Creed, went to hell. He was also born in a cave. Was there a stable/manger in the cave? Perhaps. But it’s a cave just the same.
July 20th, 2007 at 9:22 am
its not just Horus, the story of jesus shares equally shocking similarities with many other historical and mythical figures-
greece, Attis. 1200bc
born on dec 25th of a virgin, crucified, dead for 3 days and rose again.
india, Krishna- 900bc
born of a virgin, signaled by a star in the east, was resurrected.
greece, dionysus-500bc
born of a virgin on dec 25th, traveled about as a teacher doing miracles, turned water into wine,
called the ‘king of kings’ ‘the alpha and omega’ and other jesus nick names lol
died and was resurrected.
persia, mithra- 1200bc
born of a virgin on dec 25th, had 12 disciples, performed miracles, was buried for 3 days and resurrected. had all the names too ‘the truth’ ‘the light’ etc..
his day of worship was sunday too.
there’s alot more besides.
hope that helps, keep up the good work. :)
i believe the story of jesus and others relates to astrological events worshiped and personified in these stories by pagan religions.
taken and used by christianity to weaken pagan beliefs.
in the same way that pagan gods were molded together into the devil
and churches were built on sacred pagan sites.
the stories of moses and noah also can be seen in other early religions.
a little less definatly than jesus. but an interesting study none the less.
feel free to email me about it, religion’s always been a hobby of mine i’d appreciate the opportunity to shoot some ideas off somebody with similear beliefs.
July 22nd, 2007 at 7:25 am
How do I email you if you don’t post it >_>
July 22nd, 2007 at 9:29 am
you know i do like how with the facts… all the stuff about Jesus is backed up with scripture and Horus is backed up with “unknown” haha.. which means… that the historical documents of Horus could have easily been doctored… and the same with the other similarities with the other “gods”.. because mark i also saw that you tube video you’re quoting… honestly.. if theres enough chance that there are similarities between all of them.. there is also a chance in the coincidence that others had copied from the Bible… and again the Bible did speak of these events much prior to the birth of Christ. Not in any way am i bashing.. i think it’s great that you’re lookin into the facts… tells u want the truth… but like othjers said.. id like to know the stuff to back up these facts about the other gods becasue clearly Jesus is backed by the Bible and other historical documents speak of Jesus… yet the Bible never once speaks of the other gods nor does any other culture mention the other gods as well.. and honestly it does come down to faith.. that you believe in the right thing.. i know to some that may seem dumb.. but i have enough faith and trust in my God that i am beleiveing in the right thing…
July 22nd, 2007 at 2:42 pm
Its a valid subject, and a valid point. It is logical that time and the need for/to control populations would have created an evolution in terms of religion. It is obvious that humanity needs to worship a deity they can relate to; an object or a person. It is more obvious still that the ruling powers do not create, they merely copy the formula of the last. The reality of our spiritual existence is far simpler in terms of legend, and far more complex in terms of physics and dimension.
I think it was the Finnish architect Alvar Alto who said that to reach simplicity we must travel though complexity.
Keep searching Gavin, you are on the right road. The destination is clarity, and only you can provide that to yourself.
July 22nd, 2007 at 4:08 pm
hey my address is alexkidd3d@hotmail.com :)
i kinda meant it for the author
i assumed he could could get my email since i was getting updates.
but anyone feel free i guess.
that is a good video, its called Zeitgeist, you should all check it out. i found some of it was reaching though.
like relating the cross to the sign of the zodiac, thats faily unfounded,
though youtube isn’t my only source for info lol
religions always been a bit of a hobby of mine.
the sources for the horus facts i assume are marked unknown as he dosn’t know which individual temples these were translated from, ive tried to track this info down for months, its a very specialised subject. i’m in contact with a few egyptologists through a local college, who are damn hard to find themselves lol and slowly getting some info on that.
these figures mentioned predate the earliest accounts of the old testiment so they in no way copied the bible.
although i am an atheist.
i personally have no problem with belief in god, its just not my kinda thing.
however the growing number of people who have blind faith in the bible as literal truth i find uncomforting, i prefere it read as metaphors… which i think is truer and less dangerous for us all.
July 23rd, 2007 at 11:56 am
You people have to stop complaining about citations…you people should not just criticize this man’s work even if his is plagiarized…The Bible is full of plagiarism…I am Mormon and question it every day…questioning everything is best…http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/…this movie is basic for all people who are lazy to read and will enjoy a movie about the greatest story ever told…Astrology people, that’s all it is…or aliens…DInosaurs, a commet in the gulf of mexico, billions of years of Evolution, we are all accumulated bacteria, and no devil created that to test your faith…Kudos to Michael Green…I think Jesus was a philosopher and a religious activist…Religion is superstition but a road og goodness…I aint talking shit about Church but it does dumb you down, making people cling to the savior of bread, water, or wine…Also remember the book you read is King James translation…read the Hebrews text and similar astrological story…enough of this problem though we should worry about the government and the American Union…before my leave, somebody compare David, born of twelve brothers, and Jesus, one of twelve apostles…or I will comment on it later…Viva la Revolution…
August 4th, 2007 at 3:34 pm
The origins of the particular story of Horus used in these comparisons may be unknown here, but it doesn’t take away from the obvious links this list explores. The links between Horus the sun god and Jesus Christ can be best understood when looking at the astrology, the cross of the zodiac and the sun cycle, soundly linked to the myths associated to each character (yes i called them characters, not unlike Harry Potter in my mind, only created with much different goals). With these in mind, it is not hard to see just how these deities came into existence. The idea of Horus as sun god is simple enough to understand. In ancient times the sun was adorned for its life giving qualities. Horus (who was seen as a man personified into a hawk) would fly every day from east to west, just as the sun rises in the east just to set each day and in the west. Each morning he would win the batter against Set, or the dark, giving sun light and warmth to the world while each night Horus would lose the battle to set, casting darkness only until the morning where he would “rise again” continuing the cycle. Jesus’ links to the sun are also just as apparent (because originally they related to the story of Horus..). Take Jesus’ death on the cross only to rise again three days later. On December 22nd, from the perspective of the northern hemisphere, the sun reaches it’s most southernly point on the horizon. Here it sits, for three days until December 25th (birth of Jesus or Rebirth of sun) when it rises one degree northernly, foreshadowing warmth and longer days. For 40 days the sun fights its way back into the sky until Easter or the Equinox, when the length of the day officially surpasses the length of the night. There is a link to be made between every aspect of the life of Jesus and that of Horus but more specifically, to the sun’s yearly and eventually agely cycle. Also on december 25th, the brightest star in the eastern sky (sirius) aligns with the three brightest stars in Orians belt (referred to as the “THREE KINGS” by ancients) and together they point to the sunrise on that morning. And so it was said, the three kings follow star in the east to find the birth or Jesus. Or literally that three stars known as the three kings align with Sirius being in the middle pointing at the sunrise or Rebirth of the sun on that day. Without going too far into detail as I could probably write a few pages on this, Jesus is in fact the saviour only of our current age or great year. A Great year is said to be the percession of the zodiac due to the earth’s slight angular wobble in its rotation. That is, every 2150 years on the morning of the winter equinox the zodiac at a point in the sky would change. Its called a percession because the sign changes oppositely from the normal zodiac cycle, and the ancients were very aware of this. (Please if you do not understand this very factual, scientifically proven cycle, do some of your own research on it as it is important). The age we are currently in is that of Pisces, before that was Aries. The symbol for Aries is a ram, and around 2100 BC Moses appeared with the 10 commandments to usher in this age. This is why Jews still blow on the RAM’s horn to this day. After the age of Aries as mentioned before comes the current age we are in which is that of Pisces. The symbol for Pisces is fish, and to usher in this age was Jesus. This is why he was “born” when he was, at the beginning of the new age (1 AD), and this is why Jesus is commonly associated with fish in the bible (performing miracles involving fish, etc). One of the most common end of world quotations from Jesus in the Bible is ” I will be with you until the end of the world “. World, however, in this instance in the King James version is a mis-translation, the actual word being “Aeon” or “Age”. And this is true, Jesus will be with us until the end of the Age as then, a new deity will be born to usher us into the new Age, that of Aquarius. I could go on but this is enough to contemplate and please, inform me if I am incorrect on any or all of this. Persuading me to change my opinion is likely impossible as these ideas make more sense to me than anything else I have explored, but I am open to debate any time. The way I see it, Christianity is nothing but the worship of the sun, with its origins and myths plagiarized from Egyptian mythology and personified into a character known as Jesus, so that its “teachings” can be in tern related an implied to the common man’s life in an attempt to control it, just as it has been for thousands of years. As it would seem fitting, I have essentially plagiarized most of this information from another source and thus I will cite it. This however is not the only reason as to why I’m mentioning this site, I believe if you are searching for truth and are tired of all the loose strings and lies so grossly apparent in every avenue of search, that the video on this site might provide some answers but more importantly perhaps ask you the right questions as it did for me: http://zeitgeistmovie.com/
August 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
okay so I have been researching the state of our country and how The New World Order is being ushered in and I stumble upon the zietgiest movie…..
I am a Christian by faith so you can imagine I was more than a little disturbed by the first half of the movie.”I will work that out with God on my own time” right now I want to say this. If you watch this zietgeist thing keep in mind what the writer is doing. He purposely tries to crush your religious belief in part 1 so that the horror of what is happening in part 2 leaves you feeling fearful and hopeless without a true God to turn too. Is that not the meaning of terrorism?
People If this guy truly believes that we are headed for a New World Order and that there is no God to hear our cry then he is truly lost. As for me and my house I will continue to worship the Lord and let him separate the truth from fiction. The day is coming when Christians and Atheiest will stand side by side shackled in the slaughter lines and stripped of their right to believe in anything but what we are told to belive in! Until then (because I am still free to say what I want) I say zeitgeist is terrorism in the truest form cleverly put together to crush your faith and then scare the hell out of you. When you go to God go to him knowing that his exsistence has been distorted by people who have sought power and control over the human race since the beginning of time. In the end we will all know the facts and nobody will be guessing anymore!
January 26th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Well said Debbie,however I am not sure if the authors of zeitgeist movie actually wanted to disprove the existence of God.
The movies starts off with the author including in his introduction the following statment: “I do not know who or what god is….. but sooner or later these people will be made to realise that they are messing with divine justice”. OK, that was very much paraphrased, but it does give some indication of the authors beliefs.
The information in parts 2 and 3 I didn’t see as the authors intention to scare us, more than to enlighten us; and this he has suceeded in doing.
These things have to be, before the end of this age comes and with the NWO wishing to cut the worlds population down to one twelth of it’s present 6.4 billion, there will be enough suffering going around for everyone to share in.
Many of the derogatory comments about the bible writen above I could probably refute had I the time and interest, but what good would it do. I intend writing an article based on the astrological implications of the zeitgeist movie, but as seen from a believers perspective and it should be on my site around March (I hope). Should you want to contact me at all, then my email address is on my website.
June 13th, 2008 at 8:52 am
you are all nut- jobs..lol! just kiddn
July 17th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Yes very reliable information, you know with almost all of it being from an ‘unknown’ source.
July 25th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
If your going to state that the “unknown source” that is stated i suggest to stop being lazy and do some research. Becasue if you want to “quote” the bible then you must know where its faults lay. Also the stories of the Bible have been fabricated. all historical, scientific, and biblical facts lead to the conclusion that the true descendants of the original Jews of the bible are the so-called Blacks in America and through out the Caribbean islands. The Native American, Aztec, Taoino, Seminole, and Arawak Indians of North, South, and Central America comprise the rest of the twelve tribes of Israel. the centralized lie is that of The image of the man that most of the Christian world worships as Jesus Christ is actually the image of a man by the name of Ceasar Borgia of the Borgia family. Ceasar Borgia was the second son of Pope Alexander the sixth of Rome. Leonardi Divinci and Michaelangelo painted him as being Christ during the Renaissance period. But, when you read a book entitled “The Life and Times of Ceasar Borgia” by Sara Bradford, you will find out that the man who posed as Christ was a thief, murderer, a homosexual, and child molester. In fact, there is no evidence or scripture in the “bible” that describes Christ as having blue eyes, blond hair, and pale skin, and looking like some Charles Manson looking character. The true image of Jesus Christ is that of a dark skin Black man with woooly hair. Just read Revelation Chapter one verses 13, 14 to 15. It states that he had hair of wool and his feet were like fine brass as if they were burnt in a furnace. The bottom line is that Christ was a Jew and the true Jews are Black.If you have read the bible then you would know that when Christ was born, the angel told Joseph to hide the baby Jesus in Egypt, because Herod was seeking to destroy him. We all know by now that the original Egyptians were Black. So if Jesus were White, why would Joseph be instructed to hide a White baby among Black Egyptians? That would be like trying to hide Eminem in Harlem. It would not work. Why did they not want to hide the baby Jesus in Rome? The bottom line is that it was easier to hide Jesus among the Egyptians because Jesus was Black himself christianity does not want you know that. So the bottom line is that everyone lies! Everyone!
August 1st, 2008 at 5:10 pm
There is still no reliable historians who would give any credit to the claims in your article based on research of ancient texts and historical documents. It is a re-hashing of claims made in the zeitgeist movie which was a very poorly researched and deliberately misleading movie.
I used to be a practising christian and still believe in God while having doubts about certain parts of the bible. It’s not just the bible that documents the existence and life of Jesus though. There is also the testimony of non christian historians.
Horus was not born of a virgin, his mother was a widow who allegedly made herself pregnant from the sperm of her dead husband. Horus was never said to have been crucified in any egyptian text. Horus did not have 12 disciples although he came to be associated with the 12 signs of the zodiac as he was a sky deity. He was most certainly not known as a messiah as this was a strictly jewish concept. He was not resurrected after 3 days and his ‘resurrection’ was not witnessed by women. In the Egyptian tale, Osiris is either dismembered by Set in battle or sealed in a chest and drowned in the Nile. Isis then pieces Osiris’ body back together and resurrects Osiris to conceive an heir that will avenge Osiris’ death (although technically Osiris is never actually resurrected as he is forbidden to return to the world of the living.
The are many other complete and utter fabrications in the statements above. I don’t want to suggest that you yourself are deliberately misleading anyone but the people who first started circulating these statements must have known they were untrue. It makes you wonder what their agenda was..
August 2nd, 2008 at 10:00 am
This list is bogus, and I’ll give up to $1000 to anyone who can show me otherwise, that is provide me with an actual version, or versions, of the story in which Horus (or any pre-Christian deity) does these things, or any other convincing evidence that these things really were believed of the deity in pre-Christian times. I have a page here: http://www.kingdavid8.com/Copycat/Challenge.html and welcome any responses. I just figured that making people look for the evidence, and not find it, is the best way to prove to them that it doesn’t exist. Thanks.
David
January 17th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
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February 18th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
The list is not “bogus” I have seen the stone carvings of the Horus fables. They are in Egypt and any egyptologist will atest to them. Horus was a pre christian diety earliest accounts go back close to 6000yrs. The carvings can be seen on youtube.com you need to search for the video “zeitgeist final edition” they can be seen in either part 1 or part 2 the video is broken up into 5 parts, but it is available for complete download on limewire. It contains lots of good info about pre christian dieties and the present ones. To get to the real evidence one must travel to egypt.
February 22nd, 2009 at 12:44 am
sO WHAT IF RELIGION IS THE FRAUD THAT ORIGINALLY STARTED IN ANOTHER STORY USING DIFFERENT NAMES AS CHARATERS, AND THERE IS NO GOD AND WE HAVE ALL BEEN MISSINFORMED OR SHOULD I SAY PROGRAMED TO BELIEVE IN A HIGHER POWER WHERE IF WE ARE GOOD ENOUGH AND CHOSEN AFTER LIFE AS WE KNOW IT TO LIVE IN A WORLD OF PLUSES AND NO MINUSES, OR A WORLD OF ALL THE GOOD AND NOTHING BAD, A WORLD WHERE WE ALL GET ALONG ALL THE TIME. tHEN that means that i am pissed off for not being told sooner, are u saying that when we die its just over thats it thats all we get we are just dead. Damn it then religion is the most powerful mover and shaker of all time, right? i am just not sure of anything right now and i am a mom of 4 kids and i am just not real darn shure how we all came about, what do i teach them I thought i knew yesterday that was before i watched the video on sprword.com zei something. i am on a quest to get an answer to my unbelievable uncertainaty.
February 27th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
Sam, can you please name ANY historical document outside the “scriptures” which mention Jesus?
March 8th, 2009 at 8:09 am
“Sam, can you please name ANY historical document outside the “scriptures” which mention Jesus?”
I’m not Sam, but there are five non-Christian sources from within 100 years which mention Christ, though two of them are questionable.
1) Josephus’ “Antiquities of the Jews”, book 18. This one is the most questionable, since Josephus, who we know wasn’t a Christian, talks as if he’s a Christian here. There’s no doubt that this was interpolated by a Christian, probably Eusebius (263-339 AD). However, most scholars believe that it was only partially interpolated, that Josephus was talking about Jesus here in his original writing, but that Eusebius took offense at some of what Josephus wrote and changed it. Josephus even comes across as if he’s arguing with himself at one point, calling Jesus a “man”, and then saying “if it be lawful to call him a man”.
2) Josephus’ “Antiquities of the Jews”, book 20. Josephus writes here about the trial of James, mentioning that he was the brother of “Jesus, the one called Christ”. There’s no evidence that this one was interpolated. Some argue that since Eusebius altered book 18’s reference, this one was probably his work, also. However, we know that this one was part of Josephus’ text about a century before Eusebius’ time, since it was referenced by Origen, who lived from 185-254 AD. There’s no reason to believe that this one is fraudulent.
3) Tacitus’ “Annals”. He wrote about Nero blaming the fire on the Christians, mentioning that Jesus was executed by Pontius Pilate. The writing in this passage shows an immense hatred of Christians, making it incredibly unlikely to have been the work of an interpolator.
4) Pliny the Younger’s letter to Emperor Trajan. Also hated Christians and was encouraging Trajan to persecute them to make them turn away from Christ.
5) Suetonius’ “Lives of the Twelve Caesars”. Wrote about Claudius expelling the Christians from Rome (mentioned in Acts 18:2 in the Bible). There’s no doubt he actually wrote this, but he seems to think that Jesus is still around and causing problems, and he misspells his name as “Chrestus” (should have been “Christus”). Since he seems to have some details wrong concerning Jesus, it’s difficult to call this a good reference regarding Jesus.
So we have at least three non-Christian historians who mention Christ within 100 years of His time.
David
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
I don’t think Zeigeist the movie was about given answer to all of our question but instead asking us to question what has been presented to us as the truth if it is so. One has the right what has been said about Horus,the egygtian religion, astrology,jesus,King james translation of the bible, the constantine era, justin marthur and many more other sources. Then after conclude that research you can define…what it is that you believe in.
But all of us need to know as a matter of fact that the most efficient weapon use to slave people, always and has been the bible not gun.
April 2nd, 2009 at 3:07 pm
and also ask yourself why the government tax everything….except the church eventhough the government know that the church bring in a lot of money. remember the catholic church has the most expensive real state in the world….where ever you look. just keep that in mind while you are looking for the truth…I believe in god but not blindly doing so, because the idea that if you believe you do not ask question is luducrous.
November 8th, 2009 at 2:15 am
Really? I mean, I come on here to get information, that I already had, in order to “evangelize” another free mind, and all you give are these falsehoods, racked with discrepancies. From the top, to…well, I did not go on after the first few, but you should check your source and comment on their page, as my learned friend and I have now done to you.
December 1st, 2009 at 12:30 am
Tough call for all ou religious guys but god doesn’ t exist , check the work of world famous german egyptologist Jan Assmann who wrote a book on Moise the Egyptian in 1997, and just publish another one the Price of monotheism …
To summerize a lot because the book is super detailled and very knowlegeable : Hebraic scholar plageriased around 500BC the religion of Akhenaton the only monotheist pharaon 1350 BC, the reason of all those similarities between Horus and Christ called Krst in ancient hieroglyphs .
Jan Assman received
le Prix Européen de l’Essai Charles Veillon 2007
pour l’ensemble de son oeuvre
December 1st, 2009 at 6:27 am
“all those similarities between Horus and Christ” – sorry, but anyone even remotely familiar with Horus would know that that those “similarities” are bogus and not part of the Horus story at all. People making up and repeating bogus claims doesn’t make them true, and doesn’t mean you should be gullible enough to believe them. Do a little fact-checking instead of just taking these claims on “blind faith”.
December 5th, 2009 at 7:16 am
how the hell do someone like you have the guts to publish such a blasphemous article
December 21st, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Por favor, ya es hora que en pleno siglo XXI, la mente de la humanidad tome una nueva luz. Es de entender que todo pueblo ante la debilidad espiritual de encontrar el origen de las cosas, se atreva a idear y organizar dicha idea para ordenar la mente de un pueblo, es la mejor forma de perdurar el poder. Todo pueblo organiza su religión para bien y dignidad de un gobernante; pero entienda humanidad que Dios es un invento del hombre.
CUANDO DESAPAREZCA EL REINO DE DIOS NACE LA VIDA DEL HOMBRE.
January 27th, 2010 at 8:06 pm
Very good blog post I enjoy your site keep up the amazing articles
June 10th, 2010 at 6:22 am
hey i got a movie based on hitoric facts between jesus and other gods.. how all these gods have the same facts as jesus.. if u want let me know and ill sent it .. my skype is lietuvaite88 there are 3 parts in that movie.. about religion .. 911 and truth about banks
June 10th, 2010 at 6:37 am
i can bet u on my life that after like 1000 years .. our god will be dead god as well .. just another mythological god . i can bet u that during any of those other gods periods.. people were blind believers as well .. and called horus or osiris.. just a dead god.. getting the point ? :)